Timeline for Locked post on Meta
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Apr 1, 2014 at 21:03 | comment | added | Saeed | OK, I thought you probably want to provide a reasonable arguments, not just saying x is better than y because x is better than y. Anyway thanks for providing basic reasons. | |
Apr 1, 2014 at 17:48 | comment | added | Kaveh | @Saeed, it is not my intention to convince you. I just wanted explain the reason for lucking policy posts. | |
Apr 1, 2014 at 17:30 | comment | added | vzn |
disagree the site is "democratically run" & find/interpret much evidence to the contrary but on other hand after long looking around stackexchange dont think its much different from other se sites either, where mods are given huge powers and not much incentive to consensus. also, Saeed did raise an issue on meta exactly as K. states, adding a silly/mostly meaningless/symbolic policy tag to his post will likely have no different/discernable effect ... anyway suggest one of the parties open a chat room for this topic ... oh and did anyone notice no mods have said anything so far
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Apr 1, 2014 at 14:03 | comment | added | Saeed | I did not convince with your argument, I asked for two things: First, if this happened to see bad influence by new users, if there was bad new users doesn't mean they had any influence (e.g one among 10 vote does not count as influence), and the second still is in my previous comment, but your last comment, seems did not answer any of them. | |
Apr 1, 2014 at 9:08 | comment | added | Kaveh | @Saeed, Even a single case is enough (yes, we did have such cases). Voting on policies is allowed for a limited time after they are proposed not forever and it is useful for administrative reasons to preserve them. As I wrote it is not a restriction if someone wants to propose a change to site policies, they just need to start a new discussion. | |
Apr 1, 2014 at 8:59 | comment | added | Saeed | Do you have any statical analysis for your claim? (I mean statistical analysis which shows that : 1.Why you think new user with your definition has bad influence? and 2.Why you think community will not adjust this influence?) | |
Apr 1, 2014 at 8:54 | comment | added | Kaveh | @Saeed, other sites are not governed like cstheory, on other sites moderators generally have a greater power to act even if the community does not agrees with it, they don't pass policies like us. We run it more democratically here. By a new user I didn't mean someone who just has visited the site, but users who have not been around enough to know the norms and policies. I think there is a good reason to lock and preserve policy posts as they are passed/rejected and locking doesn't not restrict a new user from starting a new policy discussion. | |
Apr 1, 2014 at 8:51 | comment | added | Saeed | P.S: Here I asked moderators, but there is a lots of difference between this way and flag, actually I tried to announce two bad attitude in the site. (May be they are not bad and is my fault). | |
Apr 1, 2014 at 8:47 | comment | added | Saeed | downvote needs at least 125 rep, is more than 15 rep for upvote, if we add new policy which accepted with possibly 15 rep user, is worse than a downvoting on accepted policy. Also new user may be has better idea than us. If you want prevent fresh user changes, you can simply protect it. Fixing that answer is important to me because of difference between stupidity and wiseness, but I don't see any reason to ask moderators to do this. At SE sites this is not the only site with policy post, e.g this is another one : meta.stackexchange.com/questions/7931/… | |
Mar 31, 2014 at 22:37 | comment | added | Kaveh | @Saeed, it is not because of spam. Policies are like historical documents for governing the site, it is useful to keep the votes and discussions as they were at the time policies were passed/rejected. E.g. we often use these posts as our reference for new users and it is not helpful if every time we do so they can go and down vote or change them. If someone wants to change a policy they should start a new discussion. ps: if fixing the statement in that answer is really important for you then I would suggest that you flag the post and make a polite request to the moderators to fix it. | |
Mar 31, 2014 at 21:49 | comment | added | Saeed | Thanks for information. But I cannot see why they should be locked, e.g such a simple thing that I mentioned could be fixed simply. Probably locks are because of preventing spams, ... But even if a policy post poisoned with spam, it will be automatically cleaned by community, I mean both by vote casting and then deleting by high rep users. Probably at that time there were not enough high rep users to have this privilege, but right now I think situation is better. | |
Mar 31, 2014 at 21:37 | history | edited | Kaveh | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Mar 31, 2014 at 21:31 | history | edited | Kaveh | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Mar 31, 2014 at 21:26 | history | answered | Kaveh | CC BY-SA 3.0 |